1 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:03,429 uh welcome to the nasa and department of 2 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:06,080 energy google plus hangout on find your 3 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:08,960 stem role model i'm katie gallagher and 4 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:11,200 we're very happy to have you all join us 5 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:13,440 and like to give a special shout out to 6 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:15,360 andrew jackson uh middle school in 7 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,960 titusville florida and a thank you to 8 00:00:20,230 --> 00:00:18,720 mrs jones for allowing you guys to 9 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:20,240 participate 10 00:00:25,029 --> 00:00:23,359 um we have a lot of really interesting 11 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:25,039 women joining us today 12 00:00:32,310 --> 00:00:28,960 uh we have dr jill foos dr dot harris dr 13 00:00:34,150 --> 00:00:32,320 rebecca kaiser and dr shannon walker so 14 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:34,160 i'm going to ask each of these ladies to 15 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:36,000 introduce themselves to you and i'd like 16 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:37,280 to start with 17 00:00:41,110 --> 00:00:39,440 dr dot harris could you please provide 18 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:41,120 an introduction and a little bit of 19 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:43,600 background on yourself 20 00:00:47,430 --> 00:00:46,320 hello everyone my name's don harris i'm 21 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:47,440 here 22 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:51,520 dc today i work with the department of 23 00:01:10,149 --> 00:00:53,840 energy i'm the director hey i think we 24 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:11,109 looks like we're having a little bit of 25 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:13,200 difficulty with energy here so 26 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:14,960 should we move on to our next guest 27 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:22,550 okay so um we're gonna try and get dot 28 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,880 back on the system in the meantime uh dr 29 00:01:28,149 --> 00:01:26,400 rebecca kaiser who's here with me at 30 00:01:30,550 --> 00:01:28,159 nasa headquarters is going to introduce 31 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:30,560 yourself hi everyone uh and thank you 32 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:33,119 katie it's really a pleasure to be here 33 00:01:40,149 --> 00:01:37,119 i am at nasa i've been here for 15 years 34 00:01:42,390 --> 00:01:40,159 my title is one of the longest on record 35 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,400 at nasa it's associate deputy 36 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:44,799 administrator for strategy and policy 37 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,320 and don't worry 38 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:48,240 kids on the line we won't get tested on 39 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:49,360 that after 40 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:52,560 but i'm also the white house council on 41 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,040 women and girls representative for nasa 42 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:57,920 and so i do a lot with girls and women 43 00:02:01,510 --> 00:01:59,840 in science and technology engineering 44 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:01,520 and math and it's wonderful to be here 45 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:03,600 today 46 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:05,280 thanks rebecca 47 00:02:10,309 --> 00:02:06,640 all right 48 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:10,319 dr jill foose can you introduce yourself 49 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:13,840 hi everyone can you hear me 50 00:02:17,110 --> 00:02:15,680 great 51 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:17,120 good good 52 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:18,959 so i'm a research scientist here at 53 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:21,200 lawrence berkeley national laboratory 54 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:24,480 and i work on uh the 55 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:26,160 effect of the environment on human 56 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:27,760 health 57 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:30,080 i study the molecular machines that 58 00:03:02,790 --> 00:02:32,879 repair sunlight damage to your dna and 59 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:04,070 all right if we can have astronaut 60 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:06,080 shannon walker you can give us an 61 00:03:09,509 --> 00:03:07,280 introduction 62 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:09,519 hello everyone i'm shannon walker i work 63 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:11,360 at the johnson space center in houston 64 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:12,720 i've actually worked at the johnson 65 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:14,159 space center for 66 00:03:17,910 --> 00:03:16,239 a really long time about 27 years but 67 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:17,920 i've been an astronaut for the last 10 68 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:19,680 years and i'm really excited to talk 69 00:03:29,670 --> 00:03:25,750 wonderful and then 70 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:31,589 good afternoon everyone can you hear me 71 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:32,560 now 72 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:34,319 yes 73 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:36,480 all right well listen i'm here in dc and 74 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:38,640 it's beautiful and sunny today i'm with 75 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:40,799 the department of energy my position 76 00:03:45,030 --> 00:03:42,480 here i'm the director of the office of 77 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:45,040 economic impact and diversity i have 78 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:47,040 been here almost two years i had the 79 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:48,799 pleasure of being nominated by our 80 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:51,760 president and um to this role 81 00:03:56,309 --> 00:03:54,080 i'm actually an electrical engineer by 82 00:03:58,949 --> 00:03:56,319 degree i've worked in the private sector 83 00:04:02,390 --> 00:03:58,959 and industry for about 30 some years so 84 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,400 i'm here now helping what do support 85 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:04,080 girls in stem 86 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:06,239 students and stem across the country 87 00:04:10,949 --> 00:04:09,200 supporting uh minority businesses as 88 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:10,959 well as supporting 89 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:13,280 all of the communities that which many 90 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:15,439 of you live in across this country i'm 91 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:16,720 very 92 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:19,199 passionate about stem education and 93 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:21,680 helping develop the stem workforce in 94 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:23,120 this country 95 00:04:37,030 --> 00:04:34,790 okay that's it wonderful thank you all 96 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:37,040 very much for these introductions uh so 97 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:38,800 we're gonna go ahead and take our first 98 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:41,040 question from andrew jackson middle 99 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:47,189 um 100 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:49,840 do you guys have anything 101 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:52,160 how much do you think how much do you 102 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:57,189 the next one anybody else sounds like we 103 00:05:00,950 --> 00:04:59,120 caught them off guard okay hold on a 104 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:00,960 second here we're gonna go ahead and 105 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:02,639 have a discussion about stem and stem 106 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:04,240 careers here if everybody'd like to talk 107 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:06,240 a little bit about how you got into the 108 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:08,080 jobs and roles that you all are in now 109 00:05:12,469 --> 00:05:10,479 and what's exciting about having a stem 110 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:12,479 career 111 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:21,350 hi everybody so i i got into biology 112 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:24,800 when i was in college i actually 113 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:26,479 i didn't really like science when i was 114 00:05:29,909 --> 00:05:28,160 in high school surprisingly when i went 115 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:29,919 to college i i wanted to go into 116 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:31,280 business 117 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:34,000 but i took a geology class when i was in 118 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:36,400 college and i i really liked it and then 119 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:37,600 i had 120 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:40,160 the opportunity to go work in a lab one 121 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:41,600 summer and i went and worked at the 122 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:44,800 national institutes of health and it was 123 00:05:50,830 --> 00:05:47,360 a life-changing experience for me i 124 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:50,840 loved working in the lab it was it was 125 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:53,520 great what could i say it i still love 126 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:56,000 working in the lab and so 127 00:06:00,310 --> 00:05:58,400 i went back to college and i continued 128 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:00,320 my environmental studies our 129 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:02,720 environmental science major and learned 130 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:05,199 about rocks and the environment 131 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:07,440 but i decided that i wanted to go into 132 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:14,629 study how the environment affects human 133 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:16,000 health and that's what i've been working 134 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:17,600 on ever since 135 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:19,360 i went to 136 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,400 college at 137 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:22,240 wesleyan university in connecticut and 138 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:23,600 then i came 139 00:06:28,469 --> 00:06:26,400 out to california and did my 140 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:28,479 phd at the university of california 141 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:29,600 berkeley 142 00:06:34,790 --> 00:06:32,240 and i studied 143 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:34,800 dna repair and replication when i was 144 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:37,199 there and then i came up to lawrence 145 00:06:42,309 --> 00:06:39,360 berkeley national lab to do my postdoc 146 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:42,319 and i went from a cell biology and 147 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:44,560 enzymology background 148 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:48,960 during my phd to a structural biology 149 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:51,680 lab up here at berkeley lab and we 150 00:06:55,590 --> 00:06:53,280 actually try to figure out what 151 00:06:57,990 --> 00:06:55,600 molecules look like it's really exciting 152 00:06:59,589 --> 00:06:58,000 it's it's like going into a molecular 153 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:59,599 world 154 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:01,039 and and 155 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:03,599 you know i i love doing what i do it's 156 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:05,759 really exciting to to figure out how 157 00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:09,199 these molecular machines work 158 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,960 so that's that's what i 159 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:12,560 that's how i got here that's what i find 160 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:16,950 okay uh we're back here at nasa 161 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:19,440 headquarters um 162 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:21,680 and i guess uh i'm just gonna catch up 163 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:25,039 here a little bit so was that uh 164 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:27,360 dr foose dr harris or dr walker i just 165 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:28,479 heard 166 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:30,400 that was me dr foose 167 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:32,400 okay cool 168 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:34,000 um 169 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:35,520 so i'd like to give rebecca the chance 170 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:39,039 to answer that question here which is uh 171 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:40,560 how did you get into 172 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:42,160 your career here 173 00:07:46,309 --> 00:07:44,479 so i probably have a different story 174 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:46,319 from uh many of our other wonderful 175 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:49,280 participants on the on the hangout today 176 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:51,919 my background is international relations 177 00:07:57,029 --> 00:07:54,160 and i have a phd in international 178 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:57,039 relations and i studied about japan 179 00:08:01,909 --> 00:07:59,919 and as i was doing my studies i received 180 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:01,919 a fellowship 181 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:03,680 and middle school students please look 182 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:06,400 into this because it's great it's called 183 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:08,960 the national security education program 184 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,160 fellowship 185 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:12,319 and it provided me with funding to do my 186 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:15,440 studies in japan for my phd research 187 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:18,960 in exchange for the funding um i 188 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:21,680 did a year of service to the government 189 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:22,720 and 190 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:24,720 when i was looking around i was looking 191 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:26,479 at your traditional international 192 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:29,120 relations types of organizations like 193 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:30,800 state department 194 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:31,840 and 195 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:36,800 department of defense 196 00:08:40,310 --> 00:08:38,240 nasa happened to be looking for 197 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:40,320 international relations folks at that 198 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:42,399 time because the international space 199 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:45,120 station program was really ramping up 200 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:47,839 and so they called me they interviewed 201 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:50,880 me and i came to work for nasa in 202 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:52,880 international relations 203 00:08:57,110 --> 00:08:55,120 i started doing the japan desk and then 204 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:57,120 i moved into various policy positions 205 00:09:00,790 --> 00:08:58,320 for nasa 206 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:00,800 that brought me to my position today so 207 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:02,480 one of my main messages is there are a 208 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:04,480 lot of different routes to come to work 209 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:06,880 for a science and technology agency and 210 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:09,440 a field uh even if you do policy if you 211 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:11,519 do international relations any of those 212 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:14,959 things pursue your passion 213 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:16,800 excellent 214 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:18,640 all right um 215 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:20,160 correct me if i'm wrong ladies as i get 216 00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:22,000 caught up here uh 217 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,000 i assume i assume we have now all 218 00:09:28,949 --> 00:09:26,160 answered that question um 219 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:28,959 and if not let me know 220 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:30,640 i haven't answered and i'd be happy to 221 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:32,560 this is 222 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:35,760 and uh the astronaut and so i started 223 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:38,480 out i was born and raised in houston and 224 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:40,160 houston is the home of the human space 225 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:41,760 flight program and so i was always 226 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:43,279 intrigued about what we were doing in 227 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:44,720 space and i just thought it would be a 228 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:47,200 fantastic thing to pursue 229 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:49,440 i also really liked science growing up 230 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:52,240 and so when i got older in high school 231 00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:54,560 and in college i decided i wanted to 232 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:55,920 learn more about science and so 233 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:58,560 eventually i ended up studying physics 234 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,120 when i graduated from college i really 235 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:03,360 wanted to be part of nasa and 236 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:04,720 particularly the human space flight 237 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:07,200 program and so i applied for and was 238 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:09,920 very fortunate to be hired on to work in 239 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:12,000 the control center here and so i spent 240 00:10:15,670 --> 00:10:13,760 the early part of my career actually 241 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:15,680 working as an engineer even though my 242 00:10:19,509 --> 00:10:17,360 degree was in physics 243 00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:19,519 but working on part of the shuttle 244 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:20,720 program 245 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:22,399 i knew i wanted to keep pursuing being 246 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:23,680 an astronaut because that was my 247 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:25,440 ultimate goal so eventually i went back 248 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:27,360 to school and got more education did 249 00:10:31,430 --> 00:10:29,440 more physics did space physics and then 250 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:31,440 eventually came back to the johnson 251 00:10:35,269 --> 00:10:33,760 space center and finally finally after 252 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:35,279 many many years was selected to be an 253 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:36,720 astronaut and so 254 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:38,399 as it was just said there's lots of ways 255 00:10:41,670 --> 00:10:40,240 to get into 256 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:41,680 some of these fields that we work in 257 00:10:45,590 --> 00:10:43,680 there is no one right path and you just 258 00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:45,600 kind of have to follow your passions and 259 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:48,480 keep after what you want to do 260 00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:51,120 okay and hi this is don harris i i would 261 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:54,079 like to tell you about my story 262 00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:56,160 and i would love to i think i would love 263 00:10:59,350 --> 00:10:57,519 to frame it around 264 00:11:01,190 --> 00:10:59,360 sitting in the room i see a lot of girls 265 00:11:02,470 --> 00:11:01,200 in the room from the 266 00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:02,480 screenshot 267 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:05,040 but i tell you i i was on a field trip 268 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:07,360 in high school i was in the 10th grade 269 00:11:11,430 --> 00:11:09,440 my uh it was a field trip to this random 270 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:11,440 river laboratories one of actually the 271 00:11:15,269 --> 00:11:12,880 department of energy laboratories 272 00:11:17,829 --> 00:11:15,279 located in aitkin south carolina 273 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:17,839 i tell you until that i was planning on 274 00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:19,040 being an 275 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:21,279 english teacher in high school but i 276 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:23,360 have taken all of the 277 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:25,519 pre-calculus physics and all the 278 00:11:29,269 --> 00:11:27,360 difficult courses in high school i 279 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:29,279 actually skipped my senior year because 280 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:30,079 i 281 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,519 make 282 00:11:59,509 --> 00:11:57,600 the highest paid uh 283 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:59,519 career coming out of college or still 284 00:12:03,430 --> 00:12:01,040 that of an engineer 285 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:03,440 uh and so when you were you know if 286 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:05,120 you're interested in the the money 287 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:08,320 associated with with experience it also 288 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:10,480 followed so i was a chemist i was 289 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:12,800 interested in i went to university south 290 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:14,800 carolina as electrical engineering 291 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:15,760 student 292 00:12:20,550 --> 00:12:18,320 i did really well in school and i got 293 00:12:23,829 --> 00:12:20,560 out had 13 job offers so i had a little 294 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:23,839 fun deciding which job i wanted to take 295 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:25,760 so that was fascinating i had every 296 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:27,680 offers everywhere from 297 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:29,680 working with the space shuttle columbia 298 00:12:33,990 --> 00:12:31,600 team with nasa actually was one of those 299 00:12:36,150 --> 00:12:34,000 13 job offers i received but i decided 300 00:12:37,509 --> 00:12:36,160 to work for westinghouse electric where 301 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:37,519 i could travel around the world i 302 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:39,839 traveled to 18 different countries uh 303 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:41,839 working at nuclear power plants as an 304 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:44,320 electrical engineer i was a specialist 305 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,560 in instrumentation and controls 306 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:48,320 so when a power plant would go down 307 00:12:51,430 --> 00:12:50,000 around this country you know they lose 308 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:51,440 quite a bit of bucks like a million 309 00:12:55,190 --> 00:12:53,519 dollars a day when they're down so i was 310 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:55,200 that specialist that went and started 311 00:13:00,629 --> 00:12:57,920 these power plants up i worked for in 312 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:00,639 corporate america got promoted through 313 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:03,360 wealth i became an officer in a company 314 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:06,320 abb and worked with general electric so 315 00:13:10,949 --> 00:13:08,560 all those kinds of um 316 00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:10,959 companies that support uh the energy 317 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,639 industry so i have been in the energy 318 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:14,880 industry my entire career 319 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:17,440 so i'm so that was more my interest and 320 00:13:21,190 --> 00:13:19,360 how i got it interested and just like 321 00:13:23,509 --> 00:13:21,200 any of you a field trip could change 322 00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:23,519 your life it could really decide help 323 00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:25,839 you get into the stem field which is a 324 00:13:31,269 --> 00:13:27,839 well needed feel so we need all of you 325 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:31,279 in that room to be part of this stem 326 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:32,560 workforce 327 00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:34,800 thank you 328 00:13:41,509 --> 00:13:38,880 so that kind of segues into another good 329 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:41,519 question you talked about the field trip 330 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:43,920 that inspired you uh did you have any 331 00:13:48,310 --> 00:13:46,320 personal role models who really you know 332 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:48,320 helped get you hooked and push you 333 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:50,160 further in uh 334 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:52,880 science technology and engineering 335 00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:54,560 well you know nicer 336 00:13:58,870 --> 00:13:56,639 yeah i guess my first role model was 337 00:14:00,310 --> 00:13:58,880 this my chemistry teacher miss crumb 338 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:00,320 i'll never forget her 339 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:02,959 he's the one that uh encouraged me after 340 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:05,199 the field trip to get interested in 341 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:07,680 engineering and then when i went through 342 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:10,160 college i had a very um wonderful 343 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:12,720 professor who kept us engaged and a lot 344 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:15,120 of girls when we go into engineering we 345 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:17,360 tend to be discouraged actually to 346 00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:20,079 continue to focus on engineering 347 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:22,959 so i i was able to stay focused in 348 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:24,480 school and do well 349 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:26,320 and when i got out into the industry had 350 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:28,240 some really good role models a lot of 351 00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:30,480 sponsors a lot of mentors 352 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:32,399 and all of you even at your age in 353 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:34,240 middle school go ahead and get a mentor 354 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:36,160 that mentor could be your teacher 355 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:39,120 someone out in the in the industry or or 356 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:41,440 an engineer you may know or any any 357 00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:43,600 professional at your 358 00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:45,839 uncle or aunt whatever it may take but 359 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:47,519 you get a mentor someone that can help 360 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:50,079 and support you so that my mentors 361 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:52,240 throughout my career were very critical 362 00:15:02,389 --> 00:14:59,590 excellent um 363 00:15:04,389 --> 00:15:02,399 dr foose or dr walker do you have 364 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:04,399 anything to add as far as your uh 365 00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:10,949 well i can answer that i i don't i 366 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:13,199 haven't had one single role model in my 367 00:15:16,629 --> 00:15:14,720 life um 368 00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:16,639 i've had lots of different role models i 369 00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:18,639 i often think it's a it's a tall order 370 00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:21,360 for a role model to fulfill all 371 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:23,839 different things um that you admire but 372 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:25,040 you know there have been people along 373 00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:27,760 the way that i've admired for um you 374 00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:30,160 know their creativity in science or how 375 00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:32,800 they ask questions or you know different 376 00:15:38,150 --> 00:15:34,880 skills that that i think they do really 377 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:38,160 well and i'd like to emulate 378 00:15:41,829 --> 00:15:40,000 and i would agree that's kind of the way 379 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:41,839 it is for me as well i i wouldn't say 380 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:43,680 that there was a particular role model 381 00:15:47,670 --> 00:15:46,160 but i did have a lot of teachers uh when 382 00:15:49,509 --> 00:15:47,680 i was in school that shared their 383 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:49,519 passions with me and that that meant a 384 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:52,480 lot to me and then um when i got into 385 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:54,480 the workforce uh 386 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,320 just like dr foo says there's there's a 387 00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:58,000 lot of people that have different skill 388 00:16:00,550 --> 00:15:59,600 sets and you're like okay i want to i 389 00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:00,560 want to 390 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:02,240 learn how to be like that person because 391 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:04,240 i admire what they do there and maybe i 392 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:05,600 want to pick up a different skill from 393 00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:07,600 somebody else so it really is a huge 394 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:09,519 combination of people and always looking 395 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:11,440 at everybody around me and seeing what 396 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:13,120 people have to offer and then 397 00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:14,639 understanding their passions because 398 00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:17,839 their passions help feed my passions 399 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:20,160 excellent dr kaiser i think 400 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:23,680 so uh for me it was really the champions 401 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:26,560 that i had at nasa and 402 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:28,880 i'm a firm believer in champions 403 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:31,040 both male and female champions and what 404 00:16:37,110 --> 00:16:33,680 i mean by that is that's those are the 405 00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:37,120 people who will take a chance on you 406 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:38,000 they'll 407 00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:40,880 offer you up say put rebecca on that 408 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,639 team even though she's only been here 409 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:45,040 for a year because she can do it and i 410 00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:46,959 want to give her a chance 411 00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:49,199 so i had i was very fortunate here at 412 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:51,680 nasa to have many champions 413 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:54,560 my first boss angela diaz who hired me 414 00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:56,880 she took a chance on me to hire me here 415 00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:00,399 at nasa i did not have a space or an 416 00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:02,399 engineering or science background but i 417 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:04,160 knew international relations i knew 418 00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:06,880 policy and i had a love of space so she 419 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:08,559 took took a chance on me to bring me 420 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:10,400 here 421 00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:16,480 the administrator suite 422 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:19,360 two female deputy administrators shannon 423 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:20,480 dale 424 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:22,799 and then lori garver they both took a 425 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:24,720 chance on me as well 426 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:25,600 and 427 00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:28,480 when there were times where we had some 428 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:30,160 quite challenging 429 00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:33,360 issues here at nasa that we had to face 430 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,240 and we needed somebody to come in and 431 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:38,240 write something really quickly that had 432 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:40,960 to get out without a lot of review 433 00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:42,720 they said 434 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,039 give rebecca a chance and let her do it 435 00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:47,520 and i appreciate that so much and i want 436 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,000 to pass that on to early career folks 437 00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:51,840 here at nasa i think about that every 438 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:53,840 day and i try to do that as much as i 439 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:58,310 that's great 440 00:18:01,909 --> 00:17:59,360 um 441 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:01,919 so before i ask more questions i know we 442 00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:03,039 have uh 443 00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,039 the kids at andrew jackson middle school 444 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:07,280 online with us and i'd like to know if 445 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:09,600 you guys have any questions for 446 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:12,840 our astronauts and scientists and all 447 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:16,240 um i believe is is mrs jones there with 448 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:18,000 you do you guys have questions 449 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:19,440 yes yes 450 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:20,480 okay 451 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:24,000 my name is cindy hsn and my question is 452 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:26,080 what is the job outlook 10 years from 453 00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:31,590 do you want to go sure so this is 454 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,039 rebecca and uh here at nasa 455 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:37,840 we have so many different opportunities 456 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:38,960 coming up 457 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,280 we're embarking on this great plan for 458 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:43,520 space exploration and for scientific 459 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:46,240 research and technology development 460 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:48,000 and we need you 461 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,280 so please do look at focusing on science 462 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:53,600 and technology engineering and math we 463 00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:55,600 have opportunities that will be coming 464 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:58,960 up for engineers for researchers for 465 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:01,520 those on the ground who want to test 466 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,520 rockets who want to help develop robots 467 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:07,360 and so we're looking at a really 468 00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:09,360 positive outlook 469 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:10,640 at nasa 470 00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:12,960 in science technology engineering and 471 00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:15,520 math i also want to put a plug out to 472 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:17,679 all of our industry partners 473 00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:19,919 and our commercial partners we work with 474 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:22,559 we work with a lot of companies 475 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:24,960 that are partnering with us to fly the 476 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:27,360 next generation of rockets both to the 477 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:30,160 space station and deeper into space and 478 00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:31,840 they're looking for wonderful people in 479 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:33,360 science and technology engineering and 480 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:35,760 math as well so it's a wonderful thing 481 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:38,160 we need more american students to go 482 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,240 into science and technology engineering 483 00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:42,559 and math so it's a really growing and 484 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:44,559 positive field 485 00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:46,000 thank you 486 00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:50,870 if you guys have a question switch these 487 00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:52,320 real 488 00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:54,559 can i answer that last question yes 489 00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:57,760 please do at berkeley lab so i just like 490 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:00,160 to say that i think you know we're 491 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,280 entering the age of biology there's so 492 00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:05,280 little that we know about how biological 493 00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:07,679 systems work how 494 00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:10,559 the human body works how microbes work 495 00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:11,840 and how they interact with their 496 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,679 environment 497 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:15,840 that i think you know the technologies 498 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:18,000 that we have available to us today and 499 00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:19,600 the technologies that are being 500 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:21,840 developed are going to allow us to 501 00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:23,600 answer 502 00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:25,919 interesting questions lots of new 503 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:29,039 questions um and there's there's so much 504 00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:31,760 that we don't know about biology 505 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:34,080 that 10 years from now there will be 506 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:36,799 still amazing opportunities for doing 507 00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,230 my name is brandon becker and i'm into 508 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:46,640 space exploration 509 00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:50,159 and i was wondering how 510 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:55,990 are we going to get to mars well there's 511 00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:58,000 the regular conventional way to get to 512 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,039 mars is 513 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:01,039 get on a rocket and fly to mars and 514 00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,640 build a habitat there and then do your 515 00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,240 science while you're on mars the 516 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,480 difficulty with that is with our current 517 00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:08,480 technology it takes a really long time 518 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:11,120 to get to mars it'd be better to spend 519 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:13,520 uh time on the surface of mars doing 520 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,320 whatever science you need to do there um 521 00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:18,000 during during a particular mission 522 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,360 rather than spending all your time 523 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:21,520 coming and going and so what i'm hopeful 524 00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:23,120 is that we'll be able to develop new 525 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,720 technologies have different types of 526 00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:26,480 rockets instead of the conventional 527 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,480 rockets that we have now to get us to 528 00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:30,480 mars a whole bunch quicker so we can 529 00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,799 spend more time there um exploring the 530 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:34,400 surface of mars 531 00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:39,120 maybe we can make a space gas station 532 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,559 we will need a space gas station 533 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:42,480 absolutely because you know you got to 534 00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:44,400 have fuel for your rockets and your uh 535 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:46,400 all your equipment and so we need some 536 00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,440 kind of gas station or solar power or 537 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:51,919 something to give us the energy to need 538 00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:54,640 to to run our machines absolutely like 539 00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:57,440 instead of making two trip instead of 540 00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:00,159 making one trip maybe we can jump to the 541 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,559 moon and then go to mars 542 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,080 yep you bet and there's all kinds of 543 00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,520 ways to get there there's all kinds of 544 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:07,520 ways to position equipment between here 545 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,280 and there there's all kinds of ways say 546 00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,760 do we take one big rocket do we take 16 547 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:13,520 small rockets how do we do it and that's 548 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,120 part of the puzzle that we're trying to 549 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:17,039 figure out what's the best way to get to 550 00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:18,640 mars and how do we make the most of it 551 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:24,710 okay hi i'm christina 552 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:27,840 um what type of project does 553 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:29,919 each of 554 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:37,110 um 555 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,280 it might be for dr fuss to answer yeah i 556 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:41,760 think dr foose if you could start 557 00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:42,640 sure 558 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:46,400 so what i study is is how our cells 559 00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:48,880 repair damage to their dna so when you 560 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:50,960 go out in the sunlight 561 00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:53,520 that sun is actually damaging your dna 562 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:55,760 and you have all these proteins and 563 00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:58,480 enzymes in your body that 564 00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:00,880 cells that go in and they're little 565 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,520 machines that fix that damage 566 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:05,360 and it's a really important system 567 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:08,640 because if you that system isn't working 568 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,400 and there are people 569 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,120 that have mutations in the proteins that 570 00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,360 do that work 571 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,919 they get a very high incidence of skin 572 00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:18,960 cancer 573 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:21,600 so it's really important to understand 574 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,360 how those those systems work 575 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:27,520 and what i do is i try to figure out 576 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:30,240 what those little molecular machines 577 00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:33,120 look like how they work how they 578 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,440 sit on the dna 579 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,880 and 580 00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:38,880 one of the proteins that i work on 581 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:41,760 actually has iron in it 582 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:44,080 lots of proteins use metals 583 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:47,039 to do the work that they do or to 584 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:48,320 organize 585 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:52,240 their structure and actually behind me 586 00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:55,120 there's this crazy piece of equipment 587 00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:58,480 um that uh is an anaerobic glove box and 588 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:02,400 so it's there's no oxygen in that box 589 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:04,720 and that helps us prepare the proteins 590 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,600 that have iron in them because iron is 591 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:09,760 oxygen sensitive so if you have iron 592 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,320 that's sitting outside it it oxidizes 593 00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:14,559 well the same thing happens to that iron 594 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,080 in the proteins in your cells and so we 595 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,880 have special equipment to allow us to to 596 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,720 look at these proteins and and to 597 00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:24,480 prepare them 598 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,039 and we're able to see what they look 599 00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,760 like using this amazing user user 600 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,679 facility here at berkeley lab called the 601 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:33,520 advanced light source 602 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,480 um so that is that spins electrons 603 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,200 around in a circle really really fast 604 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:41,120 and then we bend them with magnets and 605 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,400 we're able to send uh x-rays out to uh 606 00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:46,799 protein samples and when those x-rays 607 00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:48,640 hit the protein samples they they 608 00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,720 scatter that light 609 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,799 and we're able to figure out what 610 00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:54,960 proteins look like using that pattern 611 00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:57,600 and a lot of math 612 00:25:01,909 --> 00:25:00,480 but we have computers to do the math and 613 00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,919 so we're able to see what the proteins 614 00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:04,559 look like and figure out what they do 615 00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:07,039 okay i have a second question 616 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:15,110 uh who wants to speak on who is an 617 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,559 engineer um 618 00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:18,400 i would love to answer that question all 619 00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:19,279 right 620 00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,159 go for it um i'm actually an electrical 621 00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:24,559 engineer and an engineer a little 622 00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,080 different than the scientists you know 623 00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,640 with the research and and theory but us 624 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,960 engineers are practical kind of boys and 625 00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:32,880 girls we go out and actually build and 626 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:35,360 design things that actually that you 627 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,320 actually 628 00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:38,799 ride as in a car as a mechanical 629 00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,919 engineer 630 00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:41,120 or a 631 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:42,960 chemical engineer that actually helped 632 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:45,039 develop some new 633 00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:45,840 new 634 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,559 chemical that actually you can use in in 635 00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,960 your everyday life so engineers are more 636 00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:52,640 practical 637 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,200 folks that actually take the technology 638 00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:57,360 and the research that has been developed 639 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,559 and apply it we have applied scientists 640 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,159 engineering is more of an applied 641 00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:04,559 science so we take science and apply it 642 00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,310 we always talk here at nasa how we need 643 00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:12,720 both engineers and scientists because 644 00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,600 they work together scientists ask lots 645 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,279 and lots of questions and try to do 646 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,480 research to uh to ask even more 647 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,799 questions and then the engineers are at 648 00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,240 the other end of the spectrum where 649 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,679 they're trying to solve the problems 650 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,120 that many of the 651 00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:29,279 many of the scientists are raising 652 00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,480 okay 653 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:31,919 um 654 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,720 i'm going to go students they're 655 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:36,400 the andrew jackson students i'm going to 656 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:37,840 come back to you in a little bit we have 657 00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:40,080 a couple questions from some other folks 658 00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:41,679 online i believe these came in over 659 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:42,799 twitter 660 00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,440 uh jessica kennedy asked did you face 661 00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,600 any challenges unique to female students 662 00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,919 in pursuing your stem careers 663 00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,440 um 664 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:53,360 rebecca i see you nodding do you want to 665 00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:54,640 go first 666 00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,440 well i was in uh international relations 667 00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,400 of course uh but i'll convey a story 668 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,720 that that's laughable and shannon 669 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,640 probably has some more on the ground 670 00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:07,520 kind of experience to share as well 671 00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:08,799 but 672 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:11,600 just recently even here at nasa 673 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,600 i gave a talk on women in stem 674 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:17,360 and 675 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,159 a gentleman who's an engineer he happens 676 00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:22,080 to be an engineer 677 00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:24,400 and he came up to me afterwards and said 678 00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:25,840 rebecca 679 00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,000 maybe you just have to face the fact 680 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,080 that men's brains and women's brains are 681 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:31,679 just different 682 00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,240 and it's just that women might not have 683 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:36,320 the brain capacity to go into science 684 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:38,400 and engineering 685 00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:39,840 so um 686 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,480 my response to him was that that was 687 00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:44,080 very interesting 688 00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,400 because if you look at many of the 689 00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:49,039 accomplished scientists and engineers in 690 00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,960 the united states and around the world 691 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,799 they're both male and female so it 692 00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:55,120 doesn't seem to make sense to me 693 00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,880 and you look at many countries around 694 00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:58,399 the world and they're actually more 695 00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,159 women going into science fields than men 696 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,799 so it was really puzzling the way i take 697 00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:06,799 those kinds of comments 698 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,120 is as a learning experience 699 00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,200 that we still have a lot more 700 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,399 communication and education to do in 701 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:16,559 this country and elsewhere 702 00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:19,760 to make everyone understand that science 703 00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,760 and technology and engineering and math 704 00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:23,919 are not male or female 705 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:26,799 they are wonderful exploratory subjects 706 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:29,279 that anyone can do and the secret is 707 00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,399 just being passionate about it and again 708 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,720 getting champions and role models so 709 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,440 that you can follow and understand what 710 00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,279 others do in this field it's it's a 711 00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,679 wonderful thing to do 712 00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,919 and i love the jumping on this one since 713 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,840 i've virtually lived my whole life with 714 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:47,360 this issue 715 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,960 uh being uh 716 00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,640 you know coming out as and i worked in a 717 00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:52,080 nuclear industry so there were only a 718 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,600 handful of women out there in the 719 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:56,080 nuclear industry uh so not only did we 720 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,440 have to deal with 721 00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:58,799 whether we're 722 00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:01,039 we're technically capable but just being 723 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:02,720 an environment with not a lot of lots of 724 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,600 women and some of the stats only 24 of 725 00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:08,320 the stem workforce is actually female 726 00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,440 whereas over 51 of the workforce overall 727 00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:13,440 is that of a female so we need more 728 00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,279 females in the stem 729 00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:17,279 science technology engineering and math 730 00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,080 field um we all we have those we run 731 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,320 across those obstacles not even after we 732 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,399 get in in the industry but even going 733 00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,279 through college and as young women in 734 00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,360 college when you in stem careers you 735 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,799 tend not to be 736 00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,880 uh supported as much as we should when 737 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,559 we're even with the professors just 738 00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,120 discouraging us to continue in in the 739 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:39,279 science field so it's something that we 740 00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,000 really uh continue to unfortunately in 741 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,399 2014 having some of the same obstacles i 742 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:47,520 i dealt with 30 some years ago 743 00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:49,840 the number of women in stem we need 744 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,720 women 745 00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,320 all across this country all across this 746 00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,240 globe to keep us just competitive in 747 00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,039 this country and technology will rule 748 00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,880 the world going forward i say that every 749 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,120 day so it's important that we need 750 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,520 everyone women minorities all groups 751 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,200 across this globe all the groups across 752 00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:07,600 this country in order to make the impact 753 00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,799 that we need in stem 754 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:11,840 and 755 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:16,640 well this is uh jill over at brickley 756 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:18,080 lab so 757 00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,880 um 758 00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,679 my 759 00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:21,679 i had a really early experience where i 760 00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,640 was taking organic chemistry and the we 761 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,559 were getting our exams back and the 762 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:29,520 professor was handing out exams 763 00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:30,640 and 764 00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,279 you know recognized a male student who 765 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,679 had gotten 100 on the exam and it seemed 766 00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:37,360 like he went on for five minutes about 767 00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:40,000 how wonderful this this student was 768 00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:41,919 and then we got our exams back and i got 769 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:44,960 my back and i had 100 too and i i 770 00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,720 thought why didn't he say anything about 771 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:47,600 me 772 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,520 realized that 773 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:54,480 i just might not get the recognition um 774 00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,039 that other people might get and so i 775 00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:58,960 decided you know that i would just i 776 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:01,919 would forge ahead um i'm pretty stubborn 777 00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:04,960 i'd start served me pretty well and so i 778 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:07,679 you know i i just forage on and uh and 779 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:10,320 do what i love to do um and and that's 780 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:13,279 doing research in the lab 781 00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:15,039 and this is shannon at the johnson space 782 00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:16,799 center and i would agree a lot with jill 783 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:19,679 and and um sometimes you have you 784 00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:21,760 encounter people that say silly things 785 00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:22,559 like 786 00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,159 women can't you know they don't have the 787 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,399 brains for it and or just just say 788 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,240 inappropriate things and i i just forge 789 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,760 ahead i tend to ignore people that 790 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:31,200 they're clearly 791 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:33,760 um well in most cases like this just 792 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,480 talking nonsense and tend to follow my 793 00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:38,240 passions because i know if i'm doing 794 00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,679 something that i'm interested in i'm 795 00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:41,360 going to be good at it and then i will 796 00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:44,559 just prove them wrong by my actions and 797 00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,039 so i don't tend to engage in in 798 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,120 discussions with them or argue with 799 00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:51,840 people that that say um 800 00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:54,559 say things that are denigrating to women 801 00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:57,440 i just go ahead about my day and and 802 00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:59,440 prove them wrong through my actions 803 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:01,200 well let me just give you guys a stat 804 00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:02,799 the next time you get someone to tell 805 00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:05,279 you that it has been scientifically 806 00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,279 proven that a woman's iq is actually 807 00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:10,240 five points higher than a man 808 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,919 so you can throw that out next time you 809 00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,240 get that 810 00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:17,200 i'll remember to tell my brothers that 811 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,399 um 812 00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:21,360 and so you you ladies all touched on uh 813 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:24,320 times in your uh career where you'd been 814 00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:26,960 discouraged uh based on the fact that 815 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:28,720 you're a woman uh so this kind of 816 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,440 relates to a question from mark loundy 817 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,200 online i think i've got this right um 818 00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:35,760 and he asks are there special challenges 819 00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:38,799 to inspiring girls as opposed to boys to 820 00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,880 work in science techno technology 821 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,880 engineering and mathematics 822 00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,360 and dr kaiser sure 823 00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:46,799 so 824 00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:53,600 true that stem is not a male or a female 825 00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,120 field 826 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:57,760 we have a culture however that doesn't 827 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,159 show a lot of women in science and 828 00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,720 technology in engineering if you turn on 829 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,840 tv 830 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:05,760 uh i know here at nasa we were so 831 00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,080 excited that there was a great female 832 00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,399 character on big bang theory right 833 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,039 because it shows a female right who's 834 00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:15,200 who's in this field 835 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,559 so we need to encourage more girls to go 836 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,640 into it even though we have a culture 837 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:21,840 that might 838 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:25,600 say these things aren't cool 839 00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,720 and we also have an added barrier 840 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:30,320 that 841 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:33,760 right now because as dot said we have 842 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,399 very fewer women who are in science and 843 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,399 technology in the workforce 844 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,399 that means that we have fewer women who 845 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,760 are studying these things at the 846 00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:43,440 university level 847 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,480 and so 848 00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:46,799 in classes and engineering classes in 849 00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:48,320 particular 850 00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:50,240 a female might be the only female in 851 00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:51,679 that whole class 852 00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,880 and that does present certain challenges 853 00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:56,480 so what do we need to do we need to 854 00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,799 start early on we need to start at 855 00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:00,640 elementary school and middle school we 856 00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,000 have to show that these things are 857 00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,640 really cool and they are really fun we 858 00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:06,880 have to get more girls to go into these 859 00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,399 things in college 860 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,399 and then encourage them through 861 00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:12,800 mentorship and champions to actually go 862 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:16,079 into the field afterwards 863 00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:20,079 very good uh dr harris 864 00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,040 dot 865 00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:23,520 yes i'm here 866 00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,720 um 867 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,839 i'll tell you what that's one of the 868 00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,520 things we actually focus on here at the 869 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,599 department uh that's part of the mission 870 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:31,760 of my office and you know when when it 871 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,720 comes to 872 00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,560 encouraging girls in stem they need to 873 00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,240 see more of us 874 00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,240 and really getting girls interested in 875 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,280 stem really starts back at the k-12 it's 876 00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:42,960 really the sixth grade 877 00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:44,800 is where we focus on getting girls 878 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,560 interested in stem 879 00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:48,399 we were just at one of our laboratories 880 00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:49,119 in 881 00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,599 about 200 girls there for a stem 882 00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:57,520 girls with beautiful minds it was an 883 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,320 amazing day we had over 200 girls 884 00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,880 building cars and competing in race car 885 00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:05,040 competition 886 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:06,800 had their lab coats and just getting the 887 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,359 girls interested i've spoken to girls 888 00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:11,119 and all across the country 889 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:14,400 tennessee it was grits girls raising 890 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:17,920 tennessee um or research uh was very 891 00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,880 interested so i go out and i'll be in 892 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:23,119 in california in inglewood for example 893 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:26,240 where unfortunately um 50 of girls and 894 00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:28,960 of african-american and latino 895 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,119 races are 50 are dropping out of high 896 00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,280 school so we're really just getting into 897 00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:35,599 these goals and the program i support 898 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:38,720 here at the office works very closely 899 00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:39,520 with 900 00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:41,119 women and girls across this country 901 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,880 getting them interested in stem and 902 00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,640 particularly those that are in rural 903 00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,359 areas or in urban areas where we don't 904 00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,520 have as much we haven't placed as much 905 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,320 attention so it's very passionate for me 906 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,160 for my office here at the department of 907 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,800 energy to focus on and just getting out 908 00:36:02,550 --> 00:35:58,560 and getting engaged and being role 909 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:05,990 can i can i jump in please do so 910 00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:07,839 you know i wanted to make two points one 911 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,400 is that you know as a culture 912 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,320 science really has an image problem so i 913 00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:14,160 think when people bring up an image of a 914 00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:15,440 scientist 915 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,640 in a lab it's it's a man and that man is 916 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:21,200 working alone in the science in the lab 917 00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,240 and you know often the word that's most 918 00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,720 associated with scientists is mad mad 919 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,560 scientist 920 00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:31,040 when you know in reality 921 00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:32,960 no research is 922 00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:35,839 done alone uh you know 923 00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:40,320 all of our research papers and teams are 924 00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,160 multiple people 925 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,400 and the best labs are these diverse 926 00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,720 groups of people working on 927 00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,480 different questions or working towards a 928 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:50,079 single goal 929 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:51,760 and bringing different perspectives to 930 00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,960 the research and so i think 931 00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:56,960 you know we really our culture needs to 932 00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,320 have uh more positive images of science 933 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:02,480 scientists and more realistic images of 934 00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:03,680 scientists 935 00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:05,599 and the other thing is that i think 936 00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:07,359 women and 937 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:11,119 uh underrepresented minorities um ask 938 00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:13,440 different questions in science and i 939 00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,200 think a lot of the you know i would like 940 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,800 to see more 941 00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:19,359 uh funding mechanisms where it's more 942 00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:22,400 grassroots or bottom up where people can 943 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:23,599 ask 944 00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:26,160 the questions that interest them 945 00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,599 in basic science and to figure out you 946 00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,680 know their passions 947 00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:33,440 a lot of the times 948 00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:36,400 we have we you know answer 949 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:40,160 calls um where uh for specific projects 950 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:41,760 to work on and 951 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:42,960 and i think 952 00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:45,280 women or underrepresented minorities 953 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,190 okay 954 00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:56,790 all right i'd like to give the students 955 00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,800 a chance to ask another question i 956 00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:59,920 understand there's more questions there 957 00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:01,680 at the middle school 958 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,480 um 959 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,400 yes we have more questions and we're 960 00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:05,920 actually going to ask our students to 961 00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:08,560 hold them because we are very grateful 962 00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:10,960 and thankful for you allowing us to be a 963 00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:13,599 part of your live chat but our students 964 00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:16,720 are on a bell and a rotation schedule so 965 00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:18,560 our bell is actually getting ready to 966 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,359 ring in looks like four minutes 967 00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,200 so we're going to allow them to ask 968 00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:25,599 questions up until that point um and 969 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,960 then you'll see 970 00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,280 what middle schools do best get up in 971 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,599 chaos as they exit out but we want to 972 00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:33,520 allow them to ask as many questions as 973 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:36,480 possible up until our bell rings that's 974 00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:39,040 perfect we'd like that very much and and 975 00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,640 in case i don't get to thank you later 976 00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:42,480 thank you very much for joining us we're 977 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,000 very excited to talk to you middle 978 00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:46,560 school students okay so uh 979 00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,359 please go ahead with your question 980 00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:52,560 um my name is kaitlyn and my question is 981 00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:59,109 what is a phd 982 00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,320 is shannon a phd 983 00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,160 is an advanced degree so you go to 984 00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,160 college and you did get a degree at a 985 00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,240 university and then you go back to 986 00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:08,480 school to graduate school and you get 987 00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,640 more degrees and so the next one after 988 00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:12,560 you get your your 989 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,240 degree from university is called a 990 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,160 master's degree it'll be a masters of 991 00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,480 science or masters of art and then a phd 992 00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:20,880 is the next level so it just shows 993 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:33,430 okay thank you 994 00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,270 and my question is 995 00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,960 what do you have to what do you what 996 00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:38,240 classes do you have to take because of 997 00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:42,870 what classes do you have to take to be 998 00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,200 an aerospace engineer well really all 999 00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,040 comes down to the basics you need to 1000 00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,280 take a bunch of math because engineering 1001 00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,520 uses a lot of math and then once you get 1002 00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,599 into university you'll start taking 1003 00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:55,280 engineering classes and so you'll take 1004 00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,800 all kinds of engineering classes for 1005 00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,400 aerospace engineering you'll take 1006 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,160 electrical engineering classes how are 1007 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,560 things wired how do you how do you get 1008 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:04,240 electricity to flow from one place to 1009 00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,680 the next you'll take mechanical 1010 00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,119 engineering classes this is the 1011 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,960 structures how do you actually build 1012 00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:11,200 things how do you build an airplane 1013 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,320 and there's all kinds of other 1014 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:14,480 engineering classes you take so really 1015 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:17,040 to be an aerospace engineer lots of math 1016 00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,240 and then you'll get into engineering 1017 00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,400 classes in university 1018 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,800 thanks and can we expand that what do 1019 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:24,240 they need to take since these are middle 1020 00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,520 schoolers when they're going into high 1021 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:27,200 school what should they be thinking 1022 00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:30,720 about for classes to take at high school 1023 00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:35,510 math and science i mean that's really 1024 00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,040 good for everything math science and 1025 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:39,119 computers know how to program a computer 1026 00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:40,800 and know how to do your your math 1027 00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:42,800 equations and then understand science 1028 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:44,000 and that that'll get you just about 1029 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:45,760 anywhere you want to go whatever field 1030 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:46,960 you want to go in 1031 00:40:54,310 --> 00:40:49,520 well that's chemistry and geometry and 1032 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,349 thank you 1033 00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,270 we have another question 1034 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:01,680 because i'm josh and in what ways do you 1035 00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,990 well i i i'll say that i use algebra 1036 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,000 absolutely every day in the lab to 1037 00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,400 figure out how to make my solutions 1038 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:16,079 so i use 1039 00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:22,550 thank you thanks for watching guys 1040 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,470 okay i guess we're still on so sure 1041 00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:37,119 do you want so on math um one of the 1042 00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:39,200 wonderful things that i use even in 1043 00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,480 policy is 1044 00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,200 math is a lot like another language and 1045 00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,359 it really teaches you reasoning and 1046 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,520 logic and how to figure things out and 1047 00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:50,240 put things together and i used that kind 1048 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,839 of brain 1049 00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:54,240 activity that i learned in math of how 1050 00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,319 to connect things that really might not 1051 00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:58,480 seem to fit together 1052 00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:01,040 but they do and come up with new and 1053 00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,640 innovative ideas 1054 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,119 they've actually linked this a lot those 1055 00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:06,960 who are good in math are usually really 1056 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,520 creative people those who study math are 1057 00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,000 usually incredibly innovative 1058 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,079 and it's because it teaches you to link 1059 00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:16,720 all these different things that don't 1060 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,520 seem to really fit and make some kind of 1061 00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:21,760 sense out of them so that's what i do 1062 00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,880 even in policy i try to communicate out 1063 00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:26,560 very clearly 1064 00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:30,000 that we have a very logical plan and 1065 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:33,119 sometimes in washington it becomes a 1066 00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,880 little bit puzzling of how all the 1067 00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,640 different pieces of the government fit 1068 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,880 together and how to communicate things 1069 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:41,200 in a very clear way to different people 1070 00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,319 here 1071 00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:44,640 different messages for for the congress 1072 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,400 and for the public and for other folks 1073 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,359 who follow nasa and so i learned how to 1074 00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,880 communicate and put these pieces 1075 00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,800 together in a clear coherent way and a 1076 00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,319 lot of that training believe it or not 1077 00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,520 came from math 1078 00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:01,920 all right very good um i got a note here 1079 00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,560 that we have ryan bisson's fourth grade 1080 00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:06,480 class from maple grove minnesota 1081 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,599 listening 1082 00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:09,119 um and so 1083 00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,560 since we have fourth graders online i'd 1084 00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:13,200 like to ask our panel if what advice 1085 00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:14,560 they would give to 1086 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,960 these very young students um who are 1087 00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,800 maybe thinking about studying math and 1088 00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:20,079 science 1089 00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:22,319 do you guys have any advice for them 1090 00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:25,040 yes we have advice in minnesota i was 1091 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:27,040 just seeing saint cloud minnesota 1092 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,720 speaking to 1500 students in your state 1093 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:32,800 matter of fact your governor declared 1094 00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:35,680 that day the official stem day for 1095 00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:37,119 minnesota 1096 00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:40,880 um so i it was it was about 15 degrees 1097 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,200 below but i was still happy 1098 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:45,280 but for fourth graders 1099 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:48,720 start with your your basic math classes 1100 00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:50,960 i think they call one two three at that 1101 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,720 age um 1102 00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,480 science classes 1103 00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,960 and just any any of your classes that 1104 00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,960 require you to do um 1105 00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,400 building block building things 1106 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,240 mechanical classes i think they have 1107 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,640 around you know then so 1108 00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,560 just do anything that just will just 1109 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:09,119 feed on innovation and creativity in the 1110 00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:15,030 and i'd like to say uh you know do the 1111 00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,839 science fair uh i actually got my start 1112 00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,920 in science doing science fair projects 1113 00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,200 um 1114 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,440 and i i used to think it was just 1115 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:24,880 something that students do but it's 1116 00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,160 actually what we do as as scientists uh 1117 00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:30,720 we present posters at conferences um 1118 00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:32,960 that's just like a science fair people 1119 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:35,119 come around to our posters and listen to 1120 00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:37,119 what our projects are about 1121 00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:38,000 and 1122 00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,000 science fair is a is great practice 1123 00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:45,680 and one other piece of advice something 1124 00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,599 that may be a little bit different but i 1125 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,359 think you need to read i mean we're 1126 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,640 talking about sim um education here but 1127 00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:54,160 reading uh 1128 00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,359 to coin a phrase they're reading is 1129 00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,440 fundamental and and if you can read 1130 00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:59,760 books about how things work how the 1131 00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,560 world works um you'll have a better 1132 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,319 understanding of what's going on in your 1133 00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,880 science classes and so yes take the 1134 00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:08,640 classes do the science fair projects but 1135 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:10,000 also go out there and read about the 1136 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,040 world because there are so many 1137 00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,680 fascinating things to learn 1138 00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,119 i always think i agree with you 1139 00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,520 completely shannon and my thoughts are 1140 00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,119 exactly the same 1141 00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:21,359 don't think about each subject as a 1142 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,960 separate thing 1143 00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,280 that you have to do math and that's very 1144 00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,119 separate from what you do when you're 1145 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,520 reading or what you do in social studies 1146 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,760 or history they're all related to each 1147 00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,880 other 1148 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,720 so when you're studying social studies 1149 00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,160 think about what you've learned in 1150 00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,000 science and how it relates to what 1151 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,000 you're learning in social studies and 1152 00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:41,920 when you're reading think about all the 1153 00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,319 different things and the stories that 1154 00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,319 are being told and how they relate to 1155 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,880 science they're all connected to each 1156 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,480 other and 1157 00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:52,400 when you do that i think it makes a lot 1158 00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,230 all right very good 1159 00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,880 um i have a question here for dot can 1160 00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:02,800 you tell us about the council on women 1161 00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,880 and girls uh stem speakers bureau 1162 00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,720 yes absolutely 1163 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,880 uh the um 1164 00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,960 the white house has a council the 1165 00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:14,880 president of the united states president 1166 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:17,119 barack obama has really been focusing on 1167 00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:18,240 stem 1168 00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,440 and you guys have heard it when you 1169 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:22,079 watch tv uh across the country uh 1170 00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,440 focusing on 1171 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:25,760 uh the council on for women and girls in 1172 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,640 stem the speakers borough we've done 1173 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,960 quite a bit across the country in that 1174 00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:32,160 regard 1175 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:33,520 i'm actually 1176 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,800 as rebecca mentioned she's a 1177 00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:36,480 representative for nasa for the council 1178 00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:37,520 for women and girls i'm the 1179 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,880 representative from the department of 1180 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:39,760 energy 1181 00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,720 for the council for women and girls we 1182 00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:44,880 chose to focus on the stem portion of 1183 00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,880 that as part of our speaker's bureau 1184 00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,160 activity 1185 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:49,839 and we've been like i mentioned earlier 1186 00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,720 across the country speaking to girls and 1187 00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,960 women on on stem we were at john hopkins 1188 00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,960 university for example 1189 00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:58,640 as i mentioned in minnesota we were just 1190 00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:01,599 there with an amazing 1500 students high 1191 00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,319 school students across minnesota talking 1192 00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,640 encouraged them to go into science and 1193 00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,720 stem and some of the things we actually 1194 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,480 do here at the department 1195 00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,400 in addition to those kinds of programs 1196 00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,200 we have a number of internships that we 1197 00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,800 get students high school students 1198 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,400 college students here 1199 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,960 and we promote a national science bowl 1200 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,720 that this department has been doing for 1201 00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,480 a number of years and we have middle 1202 00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,319 school science bowls and high school 1203 00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,960 science bowls we just supported the dc 1204 00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:30,079 base 1205 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,599 steins bowl for middle school and high 1206 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:33,599 school in just the past few weeks so 1207 00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:34,960 getting involved in 1208 00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,440 our national science bowl check that out 1209 00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,960 and see your schools will also 1210 00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:41,359 participate so just a number of um 1211 00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,680 competitions like the solar decathlon 1212 00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:46,079 the national clean energy 1213 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,599 bowls and 1214 00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:50,480 uh wind technology com competition so a 1215 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,640 lot of those kinds of things that you 1216 00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:54,400 could just look all those who are 1217 00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:56,560 viewing just look into your area and see 1218 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,920 some of the things that 1219 00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,280 we're doing here with at the department 1220 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:03,910 all right and i'd actually uh like to 1221 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,640 ask rebecca a similar question 1222 00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,480 both about the nasa speakers bureau and 1223 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,240 also can you tell us about what nasa 1224 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,720 offers similar to department of energy 1225 00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,200 to engage students sure so we have a 1226 00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:18,160 nasa speakers bureau and it's made up of 1227 00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,440 volunteers from across nasa we have 1228 00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,240 wonderful scientists engineers 1229 00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,880 policy people like me all sorts of 1230 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:28,800 people from different backgrounds who do 1231 00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:30,880 different jobs here at nasa 1232 00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,000 and so for those who are interested in 1233 00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,160 having someone from nasa come and speak 1234 00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,559 they can contact the speakers bureau 1235 00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,000 for a school 1236 00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:42,800 for a public event for a social media 1237 00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:44,559 type of activity like we're doing today 1238 00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,960 for the google plus hangout hangout and 1239 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,960 our wonderful communication folks look 1240 00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:51,599 at this database of folks who are part 1241 00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,000 of the speakers bureau and they match up 1242 00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,920 the appropriate person 1243 00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,440 for that event 1244 00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,920 so we do and we consider it a big part 1245 00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,160 of our mission it's been part of us 1246 00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:05,520 since our formation in 1958 to reach out 1247 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,000 to the public and get information out as 1248 00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:10,000 much as possible and we take that very 1249 00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,079 seriously that's what we do through the 1250 00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,160 speakers bureau we have many other 1251 00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,319 programs that are aimed at students and 1252 00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,319 young people as well 1253 00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,240 one of them i know will talk about women 1254 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:22,319 and energy and women at nasa but i do 1255 00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,760 encourage you to check out these 1256 00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:25,119 websites 1257 00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,400 we have stories of real women who work 1258 00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:30,880 at nasa and work at energy 1259 00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,559 and we find that telling stories and 1260 00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:36,480 giving people examples 1261 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,440 of these great different diversity of 1262 00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,680 backgrounds that we have here at nasa 1263 00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,280 and the different pathways people have 1264 00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:45,839 taken to come work here is really really 1265 00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,760 impactful 1266 00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:49,920 we also have a wonderful education 1267 00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,559 website and a nasa website check it out 1268 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,480 it's changing all the time we have 1269 00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,960 interactive activities you can follow 1270 00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,800 missions real time 1271 00:50:05,430 --> 00:49:59,920 and 1272 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,440 events as much as possible through our 1273 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,200 local activities 1274 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,079 we have a presence in every state 1275 00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,400 through something called the space grant 1276 00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:14,319 and those uh 1277 00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,079 those entities send every send folks out 1278 00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:20,160 and develop activities in every state in 1279 00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:22,160 the united states related to science and 1280 00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,520 technology and space 1281 00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,960 all right very good 1282 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,920 um 1283 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:29,200 i'd like to ask you guys we have another 1284 00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,760 question uh from donna 1285 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,440 uh i'm probably going to butcher this 1286 00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:36,160 name i think it's critical 1287 00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,359 uh 1288 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,599 she asks how can federal research labs 1289 00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:41,200 support more women in diversity in the 1290 00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:42,800 workforce we touched on this a little 1291 00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:45,599 bit earlier but um if you guys had some 1292 00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:48,640 specific recommendations in that area 1293 00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:49,599 um 1294 00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:52,640 would you like to start start uh dot 1295 00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,680 yes we have uh 17 national labs across 1296 00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,280 this country one's probably in 1297 00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,720 everyone's backyard or close to it um we 1298 00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,319 have like we mentioned earlier we have 1299 00:51:06,030 --> 00:51:04,800 the women in energy series we have a 1300 00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:06,040 almost over 1301 00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:09,200 170 women already that have signed up as 1302 00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,160 as mentors and sponsors as part of that 1303 00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,319 and you can and what it does it profiles 1304 00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,000 women across the country and help can 1305 00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,599 show girls and 1306 00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,680 and young kids on how to start a career 1307 00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:22,480 in spam how to find stem resources 1308 00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:25,359 these labs conduct a lot of um 1309 00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:28,240 weekend activities sometimes to promote 1310 00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:30,559 to encourage the students as well as 1311 00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:32,240 have their parents participate their 1312 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,559 community-based activities 1313 00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,240 in oak ridge tennessee for example where 1314 00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,640 one of our labs are they have a stem 1315 00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:40,160 weekend and they've had it for a number 1316 00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,040 of years and they attract over 800 to a 1317 00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,680 thousand participants um throughout the 1318 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,240 day so just a series of things that we 1319 00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,559 can get engaged with our labs 1320 00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,559 the labs are always open 1321 00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,480 you can contact those labs they set up 1322 00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,640 tours they can set up activities working 1323 00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:58,000 with the students like i said the 1324 00:52:01,270 --> 00:51:59,359 schools 1325 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,280 are community-based activities so we 1326 00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:03,359 would love to have you 1327 00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:04,480 thank you 1328 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,319 so here at berkeley lab we have a 1329 00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:08,400 workforce development and education 1330 00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:10,400 office and they run a number of great 1331 00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:13,359 summer internship programs and programs 1332 00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,280 during the school year 1333 00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,440 and i would really encourage 1334 00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:18,800 girls who are interested in doing 1335 00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,960 research to check out those programs and 1336 00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:23,359 really get into a lab and have a 1337 00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:25,119 hands-on experience because i think it's 1338 00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:26,319 really different 1339 00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:29,599 from maybe your your classes at school 1340 00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,079 it's a different experience to to work 1341 00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:34,559 in a lab so i'd encourage you to do that 1342 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,960 and then you know if you can't do that 1343 00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,359 you can follow us on on facebook or 1344 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,200 twitter and and just learn about the 1345 00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:42,880 research that we do 1346 00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,680 and just get involved and uh 1347 00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:47,599 and you know open up your your 1348 00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,040 possibilities 1349 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,670 something that uh we've been focusing on 1350 00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,599 we have a 1351 00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:57,359 something similar to a national lab here 1352 00:53:02,630 --> 00:52:59,599 at nasa the jet propulsion laboratory 1353 00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:02,640 and then we have eight other centers as 1354 00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,680 well 1355 00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:05,040 and 1356 00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:07,599 we really encourage each center to reach 1357 00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:10,559 out to its local community and encourage 1358 00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:13,599 students as well as those in college and 1359 00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,240 postdocs to come and do all sorts of 1360 00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,480 research at the center we have a 1361 00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,800 diversity of different programs 1362 00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,800 something that we're trying to do even 1363 00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,280 more is reach out to those who might not 1364 00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:27,440 be part of that local area 1365 00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:29,119 and that's something where our social 1366 00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,319 media is increa is doing a great deal 1367 00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:34,880 it's amazing 1368 00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,480 we have a wonderful twitter program we 1369 00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:40,559 have folks all over the agency who tweet 1370 00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,800 all the time and then we have a special 1371 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:44,559 program that's actually aimed at middle 1372 00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,160 schoolers and one is called nasa girls 1373 00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:50,240 and one is called nasa boys and these 1374 00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:52,559 are online mentoring programs 1375 00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:55,280 so we'll be sending announcements out 1376 00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:58,079 soon for the next round of that and all 1377 00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:01,280 you need is access to a computer to do 1378 00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:03,119 online mentoring through that program 1379 00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,160 either your library or at home 1380 00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,319 where you again are connected with a 1381 00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,720 nasa scientist or engineer 1382 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:13,839 for different sessions where you talk as 1383 00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,240 well as you do a really cool fun project 1384 00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:18,400 using science and math so look out for 1385 00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:20,000 that as well 1386 00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:21,839 oh that sounds interesting 1387 00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:23,920 so uh we're getting close to the end of 1388 00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:25,520 our time here but i have a really good 1389 00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:28,160 question from carrie martin who's online 1390 00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,079 she says her daughter is looking at stem 1391 00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,640 careers what can she do to help and 1392 00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,400 encourage her daughter 1393 00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:36,000 um and i think some of you guys are 1394 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,440 mothers here so you may have some extra 1395 00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,119 good advice here 1396 00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:41,839 yes i'm a mom i have a second grade girl 1397 00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:45,599 and i have a boy who's in kindergarten 1398 00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:49,440 and what i do is two different things 1399 00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:51,280 most of us talked about following your 1400 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,240 passion and so a lot of it is being 1401 00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:56,960 encouraging to your children to be 1402 00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,760 inquisitive to be interested to see the 1403 00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,240 connectedness between different things 1404 00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,559 and i think that helps a lot 1405 00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,359 when my daughter is studying math i'm 1406 00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:09,119 always asking her questions about how 1407 00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:11,520 again she can use math and other areas 1408 00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:13,599 besides doing the math calculation on 1409 00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,480 her worksheet using math and cooking for 1410 00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:19,119 instance using math to measure the depth 1411 00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:21,040 of the snow outside since we've had a 1412 00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:22,880 big snowstorm here 1413 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:25,839 in the d.c area so again we can see that 1414 00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:28,960 this is a fun wonderful thing same with 1415 00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,359 science and that it's not something 1416 00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,520 that's separate from what everyone else 1417 00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,400 does 1418 00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,000 i think that helps with what we're 1419 00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:38,240 talking about with this cultural stigma 1420 00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,720 um that somehow science and 1421 00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,640 math and engineering are not cool i 1422 00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,240 don't believe that at all they're really 1423 00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:46,079 cool and they're really fun we just have 1424 00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,150 uh do any of our other panel members 1425 00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,000 have something to add to that one 1426 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:56,319 yeah i would like to add i know for um 1427 00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:57,680 we have um 1428 00:56:02,470 --> 00:55:59,920 you know like with with science you know 1429 00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,480 girls you know love nail polish and to 1430 00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:04,160 know that it could be a chemist that 1431 00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,200 helped to develop that polish we had 1432 00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:09,359 this one young girl in atlanta that 1433 00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:11,680 actually wanted to come up with a better 1434 00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:13,760 conditioner for her hair and and was 1435 00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,040 having problems with the current 1436 00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:17,119 products on the market and her mother 1437 00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:18,640 encouraged her to 1438 00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:21,280 uh develop this new product and she 1439 00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,680 sells it in walmart and she's she her 1440 00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:25,760 mother works for her now 1441 00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,680 so she has like a multi-million dollar 1442 00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,680 company because she was interested in 1443 00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,839 doing something uh applying her and she 1444 00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:33,760 was a stem student uh and she was just 1445 00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,079 in high school 15 years old so there are 1446 00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:39,040 lots of ways that our girls do you got 1447 00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:40,720 to make it interesting and exciting i 1448 00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:43,119 mean when it comes to if you love music 1449 00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,799 you know there's there's engineering and 1450 00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,040 science behind music if you love the 1451 00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,760 dance you know the routines that the 1452 00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,920 dancers use that the technology so 1453 00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,160 technology and science is in everything 1454 00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,240 you love the iphones all it's just so 1455 00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,400 much that we just want to make our kids 1456 00:57:01,430 --> 00:57:00,160 more aware of the day-to-day things that 1457 00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:01,440 they love 1458 00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:03,920 uh involves science it's it's not some 1459 00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,319 foreign thing and and i always say like 1460 00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:07,680 at the department of energy three of the 1461 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,839 world's largest super computers are at 1462 00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,680 the department of energy for example the 1463 00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:13,920 world's largest laser at one of these 1464 00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:14,880 labs 1465 00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:17,680 and so cool i know the star trek if you 1466 00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,000 guys saw the last star trek movie it was 1467 00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:22,160 filmed big portions of one of our labs 1468 00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:24,559 in california so just some really cool 1469 00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:26,799 things and my last note 1470 00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:28,640 if you look at the periodic table 1471 00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:31,359 element 116 livermorium was was 1472 00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:33,920 developed at one of our labs 16 and so 1473 00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,400 if you imagine it's the periodic table 1474 00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,319 you look at that your students every day 1475 00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:40,480 that stuff's being developed in places 1476 00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,160 like nassar our department of energy 1477 00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:44,079 that we we touch this stuff and 1478 00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,640 something kids can just relate to so you 1479 00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:48,640 want to make it relatable and and part 1480 00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:50,880 of their everyday life and they will get 1481 00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:57,109 very good 1482 00:58:01,990 --> 00:58:00,079 uh jill or shannon 1483 00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:02,000 um well i don't have any kids myself but 1484 00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:03,599 i do have lots of nieces and nephews and 1485 00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:05,119 i think one of the most important things 1486 00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,480 is one that has already been mentioned 1487 00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:09,040 you have to encourage your child uh in 1488 00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:10,960 this case a girl 1489 00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,880 don't don't stifle the questions you 1490 00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,319 know go out and encourage them to be 1491 00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:16,000 inquisitive and then the other thing 1492 00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:18,000 that i think is important to do 1493 00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:20,160 is provide opportunities to see a 1494 00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,839 variety of experiences because you 1495 00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:23,359 really never know what might spark 1496 00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:26,240 somebody's interest and so if you go do 1497 00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:28,000 a lot of different things and see a lot 1498 00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:30,079 of different things that will help 1499 00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:32,079 develop the interest in whatever field 1500 00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:33,119 she might be 1501 00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,589 and i'll just say that uh 1502 00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,760 you know i think i have a kindergarten 1503 00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:44,799 girl and um i just you know what 1504 00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,440 everyone said so far has been very 1505 00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,359 true for me i have a 1506 00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:51,599 the opposite problem in that i try not 1507 00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,240 to push science too much for fear of 1508 00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:56,079 turning my daughter 1509 00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:58,319 off of it because that's what i do 1510 00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:00,480 but um i do try to make sure that she 1511 00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,280 understands um you know that math and 1512 00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,960 science are everywhere in life and we 1513 00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,400 try to just see 1514 00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,160 um you know pointing out things and 1515 00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:10,319 being observing different things and we 1516 00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:13,040 talk about what what her guesses are 1517 00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,200 sometimes i say what's your your guess 1518 00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:17,440 or your hypothesis about how that works 1519 00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,079 and we just work through those 1520 00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:22,160 how to work through questions that you 1521 00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,349 very good 1522 00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:29,119 um 1523 00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:30,799 okay i have another question here it 1524 00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,280 says uh what factors most contributed to 1525 00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:35,599 your current success 1526 00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,960 um 1527 00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:38,079 shannon would you like to start with 1528 00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:39,280 that one 1529 00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:41,359 i would say persistence is probably the 1530 00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:44,319 one that got me the farthest um being an 1531 00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:47,920 astronaut is a is a very competitive job 1532 00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,799 and 1533 00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:50,720 not just within the job to be to be able 1534 00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:53,680 to become an astronaut and so it took me 1535 00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:56,559 um many many years applying many many 1536 00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:57,920 times to 1537 01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:59,839 finally be accepted into this position 1538 01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,280 and so it was my persistence and it was 1539 01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:03,280 my persistence getting through school 1540 01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:05,440 physics is not an easy subject and you 1541 01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:07,040 know biology and chemistry those are not 1542 01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,280 easy subjects but if you're persistent 1543 01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:11,280 you can get through them and and then 1544 01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,960 when you're at the end and you're 1545 01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:14,400 graduating you realize how much 1546 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,680 knowledge and understanding you have 1547 01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:18,160 it's very satisfying so being persistent 1548 01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,599 in what you're doing will get you very 1549 01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:21,760 far in life 1550 01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,390 so i was just going to say you know 1551 01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:30,160 stubbornness i i 1552 01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:32,880 so i would echo shannon's comment um 1553 01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:35,520 about persistence it does really help um 1554 01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,119 the other thing is that i just really 1555 01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:39,280 like figuring out a puzzle you know it 1556 01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:41,920 helps me troubleshoot experiments 1557 01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:43,760 work through problems 1558 01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:45,920 i like i'm very curious i like asking 1559 01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:47,200 questions 1560 01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:49,119 i want to see how things work i think 1561 01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,280 that's why i got into molecular biology 1562 01:00:54,829 --> 01:00:53,280 because if you keep asking why you 1563 01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:54,839 eventually get down to 1564 01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,200 molecules um and so 1565 01:01:02,309 --> 01:00:59,359 yeah that i think 1566 01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:02,319 that that's been the main uh driver for 1567 01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:03,040 me 1568 01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:06,480 stubbornness and curiosity 1569 01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:07,680 very good 1570 01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:09,119 dot 1571 01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:12,000 oh just living by the the failure is not 1572 01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:14,240 an option i mean i when someone tells me 1573 01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:16,079 i couldn't do something or when i failed 1574 01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,480 that first math class in college and the 1575 01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:20,079 professor told me to go over to the 1576 01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:21,520 social sciences 1577 01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:23,520 science classes and forget about 1578 01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:25,599 engineering it was that you know 1579 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:27,599 just not accepting failure and knowing 1580 01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:29,920 that you can be the best of what you are 1581 01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,079 and and us girls we make it happen 1582 01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:36,559 all right very good and rebecca well for 1583 01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,559 me it's creativity and not being afraid 1584 01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:42,000 to ask 1585 01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:43,760 so um 1586 01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:46,160 almost every job i've had here at nasa 1587 01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:47,040 i've 1588 01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:50,880 created myself and i saw a need and i 1589 01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:52,880 said well i could do that 1590 01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:56,000 and i proposed it up to my champions 1591 01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:57,200 so 1592 01:02:02,069 --> 01:01:59,200 often as women 1593 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,079 we're trained and socialized not to ask 1594 01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:04,400 for what we want and not to convey what 1595 01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:07,839 we think we're good at and we need to 1596 01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,760 learn how to do that we have to do it 1597 01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:11,680 diplomatically of course like anyone 1598 01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,160 else but don't be afraid to ask and 1599 01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,640 don't be afraid to be proud and convey 1600 01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,240 what you know are your strengths and 1601 01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:20,400 what you're good at doing 1602 01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:21,440 thank you 1603 01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:23,599 well uh that's all about all the time we 1604 01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:26,160 have for today i'd like to thank our 1605 01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:29,119 panelists dr jill foose dr dot harris dr 1606 01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:32,240 rebecca kaiser and dr shannon walker 1607 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:34,480 and for you folks online if you have 1608 01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:36,160 interest in more of the information like 1609 01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:38,079 this please check out our websites at 1610 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,160 women at energy and women at nasa if you